I'm a physician, clinically practice western medicine, but taking care of my fiance with severe MCS (Multiple Chemical Sensitivities) using alternative medicine. I've recently started performing IV vitamin C and encountered Cathcart's protocol and saw his video and read his instructions. But I still have several questions regarding this. Is there an easier way than using sterile glass bottles which you would have to sterilize with an ?autoclave to make the stock solution?
I would greatly appreciate your help in this matter. Would it be possible that you call me? Or is there anyone you can refer me to who's currently using Cathcart's protocol.
The method described in his lecture/paper is the one used by Cathcart's nurses to produce a stock solution that could be stored in a refrigerator, and extracted as need to make IVs.
As Cathcart stated in the lecture, and also writes the first step is to sterilize the bottle.
I do not worry about the sterility of this because this solution is very bacteriocidal. Perhaps it should be filtered to get out particulate matter but I have never seen this to be a problem.
We pass the final solution from one IV bottle to another vacuum IV bottle in an IV line through a
millipore filter. Probably not essential, but no doubt gives better legal protection than medical protection if any problems or infection were to arise. An alternative would be to use a millipore filter IV line with each administration to the patient.
This is the procedure that Cathcart (his nurses) used for decades without incident or problems.
I am not expert. My doctor orders the sodium ascorbate from a compounding pharmacist. They will sell for $100 plus shipping. 500 CC container (with 250 CC of sodium ascorbate.) Same as the stock solution Cathcart described.
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Post by ofonorow » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:15 am
Thanks for the quick reply. Reading the information on the web makes me think that you are an expert in this matter.
I did speak with [the pharmacy you mentioned] and placed my first order.
She sells the Cathcart's stock solution with and without EDTA.
Do you think it's ok for me to get the EDTA-free solution and store it for a while, despite Dr. Cathcart's instructions of using the solution within a couple of days if you don't use EDTA. I prefer no additives, esp EDTA since I thought it also has a chelating effect, which would not be good for my fiance who has severe multiple chemical sensitivity and heavy metal toxicity. His MCS is primarily due to mercury poisoning from his almagams in addition to other things. Thus the reason for the IV Vitamin C before/during/after amalgam removal. He needs all the help he can get.
Also, do you know the source of their sodium ascorbate, ie, is it similar to what is available on Vit C Foundation, it being not from China, not from corn, and GMO-free?
Last question, do you know if giving a dose of 50-60g of ascorbate in 500cc sterile water is not too high of an "osmolarity" concentration? Or is it because the neutral pH it is okay? Or is it better to use 1000cc sterile water?
Thanks again for your time and expertise.
There is a doctor who has been trying to get several compounding pharmacies to use the DSM Quali-C sodium ascorbate (non Chinese) and he may now have another compounding pharmacy to point you to. I know that any compounding pharmacy's vitamin C is excellent, but like you, I prefer the DSM Quali-c.
My doctor purchases the sodium ascorbate WITHOUT EDTA, but for the reasons Cathcart describes, if you plan to store it for a while, then the chelator make sense as a preservative. (I note from the package insert on the main injectible being sold (BioNiche) that EDTA is listed on their label in the list of ingredients.) It is a matter of time before use, and not necessary if you plan to use the sodium ascorbate right away.
I will double check with Dr. Levy on the "osmolarity" issue, and add that to our writeup
on Cathcart's procedure to administer IV/C. I am trying to remember what the standard
size IV bag is, because that is what my doctor uses. He only used two bags when I
had a 100 g IV. I know I have had 50 g in a standard bag without a problem.
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